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Post by ModernHippo on Thu 12 Jan 2012, 07:04

i just went on to the PHD website and im not sure if its true that it was shut down, can someone please tell me

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Post by Garry on Thu 12 Jan 2012, 12:36

Yeah it IS shut down, I had a customer try to buy a top and they sent the wrong top wrong size wrong color and didn't take returns. I checked it out from msoPHATS because we also sold them, and there's no new ones.

The club doesn't exist anymore, it closed down a few years ago. They sold all remaining stock and rights to someone else in Malaysia and there's only a few unsold items floating around.

Don't believe the site and photo's they're all years old, msoPHATS stopped doing business with them 6 months ago.

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Post by Smartkungfuman on Thu 12 Jan 2012, 13:23

Are the PHD hoodies from ebay real or fake ones cause some of them say restocked
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Post by Garry on Thu 12 Jan 2012, 14:12

I wouldn't believe them 'restocked' can mean that they've just taken them out of a cardboard box and put them on a shelf in the corner of their garage or bedroom. But they may be genuine remainder stock.

The club PHD itself was a dud mainstream club from the mid 2000's which closed down many times, along with the Kandee crew Dj's, It's not an oldskool club. They wanted me to advertise them on this forum when they were desperate and going out of business 2009/2010 and were told NO because the venue actually refused me entry a number of times, they're racist The 'pure' part of the label was code for racial purity - me, being and looking Sami, I was always rejected even when I went with other friends, who were let in and I was stopped on the footpath. There's no way Millie could get entry even wearing a PHD top.

I tried to sell them on msoPHATS for years and they refused, then when they went bust I contacted the same people who sell them on ebay, but they conned me with what they had none of the regular colors or sizes and they told the customers only AFTER we'd paid cash up front, so I dumped the supplier 6 months ago for bullshitting to me.

It's just a nice looking top, I don't mind it apart from all that dance nazi crap, but they ripped off the design from PIL - Public Image Limited John (Johnny Rotten) Lydon's band after the Sex Pistols. and did the fluro colors



This is Aslan wearing the fluro color white PIL top in 1991, as seen in Global Shuffle 1, they were pretty common in the oldskool because of the UV and fluro colors, that's what PHD copied including the drug pil/PHD/Pharmacy references.

Mr Lydons range of merchandise styles and colors, is still availible direct from the man himself even a PIL ring! http://www.johnlydon.com/jlhome.html but I'm not sure about tops, those would be collectors items now. You might like to contact John and see if he's got any left or might make some new ones. I'd sell them on msoPHATS if he's interested.



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http://melbourneshuffleoldskool.blogspot.com/2008/02/shuffle-earliest-known-shuffle-footage.html

This is a great album PIL 9 released 1989, where most of the early digital fluro PIL artwork came from, you can shuffle to it as well




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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 03:34

Was PHD shut down because of the recession?

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 10:37

No they actually closed down because nobody went there and that was during the financial boom years mid 2000's

They didn't understand underground dance culture, they were basically a bunch of mainstream drunken yobs after sex which is more like a mainstream football male sports culture, generally with sexist violence and abuse towards women, bashing them for fun and to dominate, treating them like sh*t and sex toys rather than respect for another human being. Nothing to do with dance.

There were lots of clubs like PHD, hundreds over the years. Even though the club might dress itself up like an underground club, and try to play the same music, they were horrible boring and lifeless events, no soul, no depth, just people wanting to make money from you - ie selling booze and drugs illegally. The club was just a front to sell that stuff often bankrolled by drug dealers laundering their money. They couldn't care less about culture, just cash.

Even today in Melbourne this sort of thing is the dominant culture, it's pretty ugly, very nasty and is unfortunetly all too common along with the domestic violence as they get older. It's fukd to put it bluntly.

That's why we had the underground to get away from these dickheads who's only socialisation skills is fighting and drunken aggession.

So we had our underground clubs which firstly we didn't advertise in the mainstream papers or media, we had secret communication systems based on word of mouth.

If your friends went to a new club and got this treatment, word spread witin a week, with everyone saying, don't go there it's crap.

The club would have very few people, the venue and club owners would loose money and we'd put them out of business within weeks.

Most clubs would run for just 3-4 weeks while good underground clubs would run for years every week. We didn't care about how many people were there 50 or 500, it was the quality of people we were most interested in. People we liked and people who would often become life long friends. That was part of the purpose of a club, to make and be with friends. It was a social place, and safe. That was the biggest point. You needed to not only 'feel safe' you needed to 'be safe'

And in Melbourne with over 200 languages spoken it was difficult to find places that were tolerant as well. The racism wasn't just white nazi boys, it was asian too. There were some very rascist asian clubs who were just as nasty as the nazi's. To most of us in Melbourne they were all nazi's with supremisist attitudes as well as various other ethnic groups and they pretty horrible people. Not the sort of people you'd want to party with.

But the underground banned that crap from our clubs, we enjoyed each others company, regardless of race or traditional culture, straight, gay, any race, any religion, as long as you had a basic respect for another as a human being and didn't come to judge people, you were welcome. Start a fight or display those nasty attitudes and we'd get our very strong security people, usually with lots of martial arts training and experience in the mainstream clubs, to show you the door, and if necessary the footpath.

We loved peace, but we weren't timid or frightened to confront the bastards. We just hated that stuff and it really pissed us off when dickheads came in and spoiled it, it was zero tolerance on hate.

There were plenty of places that were nasty, if that's what you wanted we'd tell you to go there, the underground was our safe place and we enforced the safety.

For instance it's like Youtube (the mainstream) and this forum (underground) If you want to bitch and post hate comments, you can go do that on youtube with all the other haters. I spend most of my time on this forum waiting for the nasties to start, then I just ban them forever. They get a shock because this is such a friendly place with no hate, they stupidly equate niceness with weekness, hehe, not the case.

So the underground is an oasis, we're not perfect, we all know about the sh*t in our own cultures, and so we just try to keep that crap outta here, so we can just enjoy the simple pleasure of friendship and each others company, knowing that the nasty stuff will still be there waiting for us when we're out there, sadly.

It's much the same in the big party scene. There are the mega mainstream parties 20,000-40,000 people, you can't avoid getting the nasties in, because you need the cash and ticket sales to bankroll the production. And it's mostly impersonal. You go with a few friends you hang around with a few friend and go home with the same few friends. You don't really meet anyone new.

So that's why the underground clubs were even more valued, because that's were you could meet new people and make new friends. Clubs were usually small numbers and weekly, the big parties were often 2-3 times a year. In the oldskool there were lots of big party crews, so even though they only did 1 or 2 a year, there were big parties every weekend.

The same as clubs there were club nights 6 nights a week, each with their own style and clutch of people. There was a really delicate balance between keeping the club fresh week to week, without changing it. People wanted to know that everything was much the same, it was predicatably good, same friendly atmosphere, with much the same people, you wanted to feel confident that if you took a new friend there, there's be no nasties and everyone would have a good time, and want to come back again the next week to have a good time all over again.

The club that PHD wanted to be is FILTER. It ran for 11 years every wednesday night, with Rod and Jason with guest dj's and live shuffling on the stage.

It was a very impressive accomplishment, especially when the average good underground club wouldn't last more than a summer season - Melbournes summer season starts September and goes to March/April. But Filter was all through winter as well.

The owner of the venue Carlo Colosimo is a great guy, was part of the underground scene already and started the venue as an art gallery with a bar and understood the underground culture and how to do business. We were happy to spend our cash there because we wanted him to keep operating for somewhere for us to go. We supported each other. The same way we do in the shuffle scene today.

GS1 is bankrolled by shufflers for shufflers. it's our own cash and time we invest in the movie and the meetups. That gets very hard when we have to compete with the mainstream commercial music machine such as LMFAO, MTV, Hollywood and the big end of town.

But we survive, and we enjoy life, supporting our culture because we want it to survive.

It's a bit hard to explain the difference, much easiler to experience it. You'll see the difference in this clip when I take Millie (from this forum) to FILTER in 2009.

You'll see at the start the sort of abuse thats common in mainstream society in Melbourne, it's not everywhere, but it's there. I was walking with a walking stick at the time holding the camera. I'd just spent about a year on crutches recovering from injury with my fractured spine, just minding my own business, and bam, this is the sort of treatment I got at PHD, and even from the Dj's of PHD - I won't mention their names, they're out of the business now.

So you'll see the contrast in attitude from the mainstreet to the club quite dramatically. Why put up with crap, if you've got something better ?

This clip is from GS1 with interviews from forum members Millie, Len Hall (We Dance Hard) , Dr3kar and Matthew Moyle [Silvereyes] Filter closed down in 2003, while it was still going strong, because Rod and Jason had been doing it every week for 11 years and needed to do something else before they got jaded. Rod lives and works in Thailand now as a TV reporter and Jason's usually crusiing around the world working in the shipping industry. Both well and happy. Carlo still owns Lounge the Filter venue, and was there on the day this footage was shot and met Millie and bought us the drinks - thanks Carlo. here's the venue site today, still much the same attitude and atmosphere www.lounge.com.au



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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 11:29

I never knew that PHD was like that. I was planning on going to Australia in the future to go to the club. After reading your post, I don't want to visit the club anymore. I'm glad they went out of business. I really want to go to an underground rave; however, there isn't any where I live at. Any advice how to find one in Texas?

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 11:47

Yeah I've just updated the post here's the Lounge venue still operating www.lounge.com.au, and still recommended. Yeah we don't like bagging people more as a part of our nature, so generally with history stuff like PHD, we just let it go, the music business is pretty nasty as a part of it's nature and usually when people leave the industry they've had enough and don't bother us again.

but when there's current interest or issues it's important to provide the background info.

If you came to Melbourne today, your would not know the Melbourne Shuffle exists, it's still underground, we can't even get it screened anywhere because there's still a lot of nazi's controlly stuff here, usually involved in beer sales that's all they care about.

In Texas haha, I threw a bunch of racist nasties from texas off this forum last year, I reckon you've got your work cut out for you there.

I'd really like to support nice Texans and venues but don't know any specifically. Perhaps some other members may know and let us know, I'm sure there's more in your area, keeping a low profile Smile

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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 12:13

Thanks for your help. The Lounge does seem nice to visit. Another reason I want to visit Australia because of Defqon 1. I'm just hoping it's not as bad as PHD. However, I'm afraid because it's a big event.



By the way, I don't really like living in Texas. I don't feel like that I belong here.

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 13:28

yeah defqon is a mainstream event with lots of nasties, generally it's rated by the number of arrests by Police, not a friendly event, weapons scanners, bag checks, police sniffer dogs etc over priced everything, but that's pretty common with these sized events.

http://www.penrithstar.com.au/news/local/news/general/bigger-crowd-fewer-arrests-at-defqon1/1949137.aspx

It's not a hardstyle or underground crowd, mainly commercial hardtrance which is getting a bit boring now, I think LMFAO played there last year or one of the other big ones, I forget which one, Many of these festivals are going broke because they're way too expensive and are all pretty much the same with acts doing them all while in town.

You're better off seeing some of the bigger names in the USA, Australia usualy gets them after touring northern summer season when they're winding down from 100 one night stands. Often the performances are bad, because they're worn out from touring and just want to stop and have a holiday in Australia because it's summer and home for them is snowing over.

Britney for instance was savaged in Melbourne and a few other towns with diehard fans walking out booing at her and demanding refunds because the performance was sloppy and performers were jaded and just going through the motions. They had to cancel a few dates and she hasn't been back.

LMFAO played Sydney but were too scared to come to Melbourne I think haha, that and because the ticket sales were way down. They've basically gone from No1 to the bargin bin best-of-2011 compilation cd's - the mainstream graveyard, and really haven't been able to match the success of the shuffle track. It's a big ask for any act to follow up with that sort of success, you're destined to become a one hit wonder peaking too early and disappearing just as quick, like Daft Punk, Donkey Rollers etc people just get tired of the over exposure.

I wouldn't come here just for those, but if your are here and have the cash, yeah sure worth doing while your in town if your want.

Melbounre's been pretty much partied out, the big parties were bombing out early to mid 2000's after 10 years of big stuff. The size means you have to go for a middle of the road type set up just to cover costs, even with the rock based festivals like Big Day Out, dragging Iggy Pop and all these grey haired big name rockers out of retirement just to get a broader crowd in. These festivals are often doomed to fail under the weight of their production costs and the associated bad vibe stuff that really ruins an otherwise fun day.

Oldskool friends who do the local big parties have tried a few times to get them going again in Melbourne the past few years, but have crashed and burned badly, mainly because they are stuck in a middle aged rut and haven't changed with the times, generally they don't like hardstyle, it's too extreme for them and watching teens shuffling just makes them feel old hehe, it's all a bit tragic at the moment Smile But that's good, it means it's time for the new born Smile



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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 13:40

I'm guessing that Defqon 1 at the Netherlands is the same way, too. Is there any events that are not mainstream as Defqon 1? Qlimax seems like one too, since it is also connected to Q-Dance.

LMFAO playing in Defqon 1? I can't imagine that. They don't even produce hard trance! They only produce electro-house (Correct me if I'm wrong).

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 14:19

Stereophonic was the LMFAO gig, I just checked, Richie who is an oldskooler is involved, but they didn't play Melbourne.

http://eventful.com/sydney/events/lmfao-/E0-001-043197224-9

Yeah in Australia they don't really stick to one genre, they just get who ever they can to sell tickets so you can see a live rock type band playing at a dance party regardless, it just depends on the bidding, Promoters and investors just buy the name as a headline act, especially if the act they really want has already been bought by another festival.

Climax much the same. It's because there's only 26 million people in ALL of Australia and only 3-4 big cities to do it in. So they can't rely just on a narrow fan base for the big gigs, they're just a muddle of stuff, which is the problem with them, they're not focused enough to a genre to make it work. They usually started out focused, but had much smaller venues and production costs, then get fuzzy as they grow.

They are all due for a shake up, especially now with the recession, there's every chance none of these big festivals will last this year, many are still broke or going bankrupt from the past season. The big dutch Sensation only did one event in Melbourne 40,000 or so, but pulled out the next year and haven't been back. I had firends who loved it, but it's mainly for an over 30's crowd and have formal dining tickets and yuppy rooms for $100's per head. and there's not enough of them who go out anymore because they have families and bills and jobs to worry about



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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 14:59

So you are saying that these events, hosted by Q-Dance, are cash cows?

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 16:49

Oh yeh completely, not that earning a living is a bad thing. These are big productions with huge production costs. I mean it's just the music biz. that's the reality, there's a passion for the music as much as the cash, investors don't give money away, they expect to see a return or profit on their investment. Otherwise it'd all be for free and they'd hand cash out at the ticket box, not take it in. Smile

I've had the same considerations making GS1 and GS2, I've spent my lifes savings doing it, and we're still not making any money yet, but I'm enjoying myself more than I ever have because we have an ethos of creativity ruling the day, at the same time we need to pay the rent and food bills to stay alive to enjoy it. This is our living we expect to make a living out of it.

I mean the Stadium Techno Inferno is the same, it's a huge cost and financial risk to put on those shows. The venues and technology companies providing the production expect to be paid and will have lawyers explain why that may be a good idea compared to being sued.

Where problems arise is the balance between making a living and controlling the culture that we're making a living from. Like it's cheaper for investors to repeat the same thing over and over than try to come up with new stuff all the time, new stuff I mean actual creative product, not just the same ol same ol in different color schemes. There's a predictable component on doing the same thing, you know where it's going and what to do, but imagine only ever hearing hiphop and madonna for ever, no hardstyle trance or even bluegrass or Bach, a pretty small world.

The nasty side, is using your power to stop new creative works emerging, for instance like in Australia, we can't get a screening not because the product isn't any good, or that there isn't a market, it's that we are the competition and it's got nothing to do with the artwork, it's got to do with business.

And sadly the business very important when you get to large scale activity, whether it's a party or flying to the moon, and it will often be what decides the culture.

But every generation or two there's a break thru and a dramatic shift from what has been for a lifetime as the new creative product gets air. Which is whats happening now, we're in the middle of a generation change globally.

The new culture doesn't need to be restricted to the exisitng mode of distribution and exposure like it was even just 5 years ago.

online culture is bypassing it. Before online culture existed, there was no way you would be talking to me from texas. I'd have to battle my way thru the USA music industry just to get a green card to work in the USA and my music really isn't the sort of thing the USA music industry is interested in, which is fair enough, it's their choice their business.

Just as the underground clubs can choose not to play mainstream stuff.

Whats happening for artists, is really exciting now, we can now present our own work without compromiise to whatever audience is interested, without the massive infrastructure costs, it's a new world for us.

We don't have to wait and hope some promoter thinks they can make enough money from us, to make art, we just do it now, lo budget high quality and direct from artist to audience.

It's putting the big shows on edge, because tastes are changing with the exposure to new things. Theres a shift and an appettie for new works

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The speed of change has increased too. it takes a good year of planning to do a big event and book artists, This time last year there was no LMFAO hit, nobody outside of the small shuffle community knew the shuffle existed .... and now, different ball game

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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 17:48

I don't like people who just don't care about the rave culture and just in it for the money.



By the way, I found a peer-reviewed article in my college's library database about rave culture as I was searching for articles for my Composition I class project (I was suprised finding many peer-reviewed articles about rave culture). It is titled "It's Not A Rave". I forgot who is the author of the article. It is about negative changes to the rave clubs. For example, the location of the rave club is in downtown (an undesirable location), which means the possibility of posers going in the club. Some people were even stop going to raves because of this. The author was writing about this in Australia.

I'm guessing that the article was based on these "mainstream" raves.

I'm also guessing that this doesn't happen at underground raves.

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Post by Garry on Fri 13 Jan 2012, 20:53

Oh it happens with the underground too. Even from the 1992 era onwards, and for instance Filter, everyweek you'd see, like the DJ's from the commercial clubs in there listening to what music was being played on a wednesday night, then playing those tracks in a commercial club on the saturday night.

Many of those attending the underground parties where from up town Rich areas. That guy Richie who did stereophonic called himself Richie Rich, and yeah no exaggeration. It was a weird combination.

We made a feature out of that driving to a dark industrial area along the river front to an abandoned warehouse then going down the back alley to a plain looking door way to where the party was.

hehe like the lasers and lights you could see from the moon and massive sound system you would drown out your car stereo, so it wasn't too secret, especially for locals seeing all these expensive cars and hoards of ravers in fluro gear with fluro water pistols and toys and stuff, like the martians had landed.

But the surprise was 'most' of the rich kids felt the same way as we lesser mortals did. The superficial and usually ugly obsession with money, that invaribly ripped the hearts out of their families, and all the snobby pretense that goes with it.

They wanted to escape that, just as much as the rest of us did. often they were really nice people, and they found the same with us, once the social prejudices were removed we became life long friends with a greater understanding from all sides. It was a real mix of people.

I got turned away from lots of uptown clubs, even when I was working in them !! haha. I'd have to get someone from inside to tell the security to let me in.

Which is pretty much what we did to posers who fronted the door at underground raves. We'd all talk about this stuff and what it meant to each other from different parts of town.

We'd even let Nazi's in. I actually invited a couple from a music shop I knew across the road from a parties in my studio in Centre House Flinders Lane, trying to convert them haha, or at least subvert them.

They'd go really weird and think we were going to mug them or something, but in the dark in a crowd, with music so loud you can't hear yourself talk, the masks come off and you end up being just another human being.

All the judgemental stuff from both sides become largely irrelevant. We'd have the attitude that this was the neutral zone, leave your guns and dogma at the door and be something else for a few hours, be accepted at face value.

They'd ignore you in the street and would spit at your feet if their nazi friends were with them, but out of the corner of your eye you could see a sparkle of humanity there, you both knew you had been to the same underground party and had a good time, and you'd probably do it again, but it was secret.

I think we all found out we had some weird perceptons about each other, and a lot of that was crap. At the same time there were some really nasty people as well, which you'd come to recognise much easier in daylight Too often they were people who called you their friend.

So even the posers, groan so many, but we figured if they behaved, didn't start fights or treat us like a human zoo, then their cash was as good as anothers, and we'd be two faced to exclude them just as I and many others were excluded from their clubs.

It became a very powerful vehicle for social change. It was easy to be a nazi with all your hate mates, but could you have a good time at one of our parties, did you have the balls and self control to be the minority in a crowd of 600, were you man enough.

That's the logic I'd use on the nazis, are you scared to be in this crowd, are you a coward or have such little self control that you run away from this. Is your purity so weak, that you must live in a glass house.

- please don't go out and do this without some backup, hehe they can just as easy beat you death for sport, but when it came to the hardcore ideology of what we were on about, we had to face our own demons and say are we any different than them.

It's weird sh*t for sure hehe

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Post by hardcore_shuffler on Sat 14 Jan 2012, 01:40

good riddins,PHD was so mainstream and not worthy of the credit,i remember when they wanted to sponser me and Len from wedancehard told me it was a terrible idea and why,they are undeserved of alot of credit,though i do give them alot of props,word on the street is they want to open a PHD in america,it's probably be just as sketchy depending on location,it could be a hit.but i doubt it wont go too bad,considering america is a sucker for any franchise or mainstream act.sucks that there was only ONE phd.but,if there ever wanted to regain there name and make loads of money and sell out,America would be perfect for them.lol

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Post by DaHardstyleMan on Sat 14 Jan 2012, 03:27

I never knew until now that there were Neo-Nazis in Australia. They are as bad as rednecks in the southern states. I'm just lucky that I didn't meet a redneck yet. About PHD, I heard that they are trying to make one in New York (correct me if I'm wrong).

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Post by hardcore_shuffler on Sat 14 Jan 2012, 04:09

nope.i heard the same...theres been alot of tektonik clubs and lots of industrial clubs...the hardstyle scenes been ok in NY,but thats probably why phd might open there,to increase the scene.NY LOOOVES that kind of stuff,trends rising

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DaHardstyleMan wrote:I never knew until now that there were Neo-Nazis in Australia.

They're not neo- but the proto-Nazi's in the 1920's Melbourne University proposed GAS CHAMBERS to kill what they considered inferior humans, such as me.

Melbourne University is very powerful and even has buildings named after staff who were members of the Eugenics society including an Arts building. The Eugenics movementt is what Hitler and the Nazi's used as a 'scientific' excuse to kill Jews, Blacks any mixed race and Sami people of Norway in their burnt earth policy, when the Nazi's occupied Norway in WW2.

They have the same attitude as that, now declared insane Nowegian Nazi who murdered kids in Norway last year because we aren't racist. The very brave Norwegian shufflers (members of this forum) with the full support of Norwegian Police and authorities went out and still held our first meet-up just two weeks after the murders, even though friends and one of the crews sister where killed. that's why things have been a bit tense on the forum the past couple of months, these nazi's are sick sadistic psychos in power and with guns and are still out there hunting us.

I think insanity is an accurate description of all Nazi's

http://melbourneshuffleoldskool.blogspot.com/2011/07/for-norway-freedom-and-love-gsm2011.html

The eugenics people who inspired the Nazi's and our current State Government the racist conservative far right wing 'Liberal' party were the inspiration for his killings, in particular naming the former Australian Government leader John Howard and his deputy Peter Costello.

They all come from the social darwinists or Born-to-Rule people of the 1700/1800's who segregated the world into slaves and rulers, making themselves rulers. They believed for humans and society to 'progress' that people they considered inferior must be killed to extinction and replaced by themselves, with certain classes of people bred as slaves. They had a big list.

Social Darwinists (Born-To-Rule) are the people who promoted the concept of RACE in the 1800's, largely making race what it is today - sadistic bigotry. The CONCEPT OF RACE is BULLSHIT, Don't buy into it, it's crap. Eugenics is the bad science of racism , Nazi's are their insane children

Very nasty, very sick and very dangerous people and they were my school teachers at primary and high school and are still living here in Melbourne in our wealthiest suburbs. There are many of them who are Melbourne's Elite including those who decide what movies we can and can't see , http://melbourneshuffleoldskool.blogspot.com/2011/07/miff-cultural-cringe-want-belgium-dance.html

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NAZI MELBOURNE

''I'd be happy to put my head on the block and argue with any historians that Melbourne was the centre of eugenics in Australia,'' he says.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/a-theory-out-of-the-darkness-20110912-1k5r6.html

Very disturbing news about the Nazi Eugenics movement in Melbourne and itís champion the University of Melbourne, which the Uni understandably wants covered up for itís own sake and the sake of prominent Melbourne citizens who were part of the movement. Very nasty Nazi secrets from Germaine Greerís old school.

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At the forefront of the eugenics movement in Melbourne was a renowned professor of anatomy, Richard Berry, who in the 1920s measured people's heads in pursuit of a theory that a small head indicated that a person had low intelligence. White, educated people were the smartest, according to Professor Berry; the poor, criminals and Aborigines the least so. He claimed Ned Kelly was a ''mental defective'' because his brain size was that of a 14-year-old.

Berry favoured the establishment of a ''lethal chamber'' to euthanise what he called ''the grosser types of our mental defectives''.

According to Dr Jones, the Eugenics Society of Victoria was ''an offspring of the University of Melbourne''. Many members of the society, which ran from 1936 to 1961, were academics at the university, including Sir John Medley, a vice-chancellor. The university's ''new'' arts building is named after him.

Berry, professor of anatomy at Melbourne between 1906 and 1929, was responsible for the construction of a new anatomy building, which now houses the university's maths and statistics department, and still bears his name.

Berry also collected Aboriginal ancestral remains, which became known as the Berry collection. In 2003, Melbourne University apologised for the ''hurt and understandable indignation felt by indigenous Australians'' after the collection - which included the bones and skulls of about 400 people, mostly Aborigines - was found locked in an anatomy department storeroom.

Dr Jones says there were other influential eugenicists who made Melbourne a focus for the movement.

''I'd be happy to put my head on the block and argue with any historians that Melbourne was the centre of eugenics in Australia,'' he says


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The other famous club in the Melbourne oldskool underground was Tasty, run by the Razor gang. It was a mixed straight gay club, members and members guests only, the venue was very hard to find, down a back alley off a back lane, tucked away so nobody knew it existed except for the underground, so that the nasties wouldn't bother us.

It was in the basement of Commerce House an old office building from 1912, where I lived for 6 years 1990-96, when the building was closed down and redeveloped into a 5 star hotel. You can stay there today it's still a hotel with the same 1912 facade of the CTA which built it. The CTA is the Commercial Travellers Association, you'll see pictures of the original interior in the clip.

You'll see glimpses of my studio and meet the neighbours, all underground artists, and see one of the best polished shuffle surfaces around. The camera shots walking down the passageway were done by me wearing socks, I was going to do some gliding - runing and then sliding down the passageway, when I got distracted by some neighbours.

And you'll see when we hit the national news late 1994 in a TV news story when the Melbourne Police raided it and strip searched 463 people. Completely stirpped naked forced to bend over and have a torch shined up your arse, in front of others. Shufflers were locked inside for 3-4 hours with their hands up against the wall. A completely abusive nazi homophobic attack. There's interviews with those that were stip searched the week later. We didn't close down in fear, instead we stayed open in defiance.

The Police were trying to intimidate the shufflers to drive us out of town, however, that backfired because there were quite a few off duty senior lawyers in the club who were there to party and were stripped and searched, QC's (Queens Counsel ) as they were called then, the highest rank with wigs and gowns and they launched Australia's first Class Action against the Victoria Police and won a $10,000,000 payout, and the Cheif Commissioner of Police was sacked.

The attitude was shufflers and the underground were ferral low lifes, a vermin underclass that had to be jackbooted into submission or eradicated, much the same attitude of the Lord Mayor Robert Doyle when he sent in the riot Police to throw out the occupy Melbourne people, who were just peacefully sitting in small tents in the City Square, where it is actually legal to protest.







The Police ignorance and bigotry was exposed, and the state Premier at the time Jeff Kennett immediately expressed displeasure in the raid, and punished the Police forcing ALL Police to pay the $10,000,000 plus legal expenses out of their own pockets, so that taxpayers weren't sent the bill. The Cop's had to pay for their own uniforms, lunch room biscuits, tea/coffee etc for years, totally humilating.

They've never quite regained the public respect they once had, and right now 20 years later the people of Victoria are demanding an anti-corruption authority be set up to purge these bastards from the Police. Victoria is the only state in Australia without one. All the other states have had them for decades, sadly with no shortage of work.

The current Liberal Party head leader Ted Baillieu promised to set up the anti-corruption authority before the last election and got elected pretty much on that promise, but has weaselled his way out of it so far and is crumbling under the backlash and reports of corruption in his version of the party.

He's unlikely to be re-elected and like John Howard and Peter Costello, has said nothing to publically distance himself from the nazi pride talk of the Norwegian Nazi murder.

Not all the Liberal party are such far right monsters, Jeff Kennett was also the Liberal party leader at the time of the raid, and to his credit was swift to act and punish the nazi filth in the Police force.

The rest of us including the generally decent people of the Liberal party can't wait for the anti-corruption authority to begin to rid not just the Police but also the government and judges of these nazi nutters. Including formal reports from me about local corrupt racist cops, and I'm looking forward to giving evidence against them, there's quite a few people in the queue ahead of me.




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This is pretty messed up.

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Post by Garry on Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:08

Racism is alive and thriving in Australia, and it's a dirty subject which a lot of politicians want to deny, because, well perhaps it's too close to home for them and they live in constant denial. But that is starting to change with more and more going public about racist insanity.

Todays Herald Sun newspaper - owned by Rupert Murdoch who's wife is asian, picking up the challange to make things change for the better, our state Premier Ted Baillieu of the nasty Liberal party, said he did not think Australia was a racist country. No surprise there, but some surprises here...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/racism-very-much-alive-in-australia-says-dr-charles-teo/story-fn7x8me2-1226247766763

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Former liberal party premier Jeff Kennett, former Australian Medical Association president Dr Mukesh Haikerwal, singer Kamahl and ex-police commissioner Christine Nixon have all said that racism exists.

Mr Kennett said that racism occurred among children, but he taught his own grandchildren to be tolerant of other races.

"I think there always will be elements of racism and it is often manifest itself in different ways," he said.

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This is the typical sort of bloody violence that happens every weekend in King Street, which is where PHD was.

Report from The Herald Sun

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/street-of-sleaze-crime-lives-up-to-reputation/story-fn7x8me2-1226250308478

VIOLENCE kept police busy on King St early yesterday amid renewed calls to stop the bloodshed on Melbourne's sleaziest strip.

The Sunday Herald Sun witnessed several clashes between strip club bouncers and drunk punters at the spot where a bikie turf war erupted last month.

The action started soon after midnight when a group of men in their 20s started swearing at bouncers after being refused entry to Spearmint Rhino.

Shortly afterwards, a middle-aged man gave similar abuse to security staff at nearby Showgirls Bar 20 before being tackled to the ground and taken away by police.


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The violence can be stopped quite easily, by removing the clubs alcohol license, but the Liberal Government's Ted Baillieu and Lord Mayor Robert Doyle refuse - why ? Because they're just nasty bastards, simple as that.

Every now and then they flap their gums and tut tut, but just sit back and enjoy the taxes they make, and encourage the culture of mindless violence. They turned the once beautiful city into an open sewer.

This is the reason I left the CBD after 20 years. This photo (above) is just a few blocks from where I lived, they'd crawl around my front door and vomit and piss everywhere... and I lived opposite the central city Police Station with over 140 police stationed there. They wouldn't do anything.


The main oldskool district of Flinders Lane. I lived in the Nicholas Building for 10 years after Commerce House was closed down. Centre House was the first place I lived on the 2nd floor, until some nasty bastard kicked us out and tried to set up a bar. It's empty now, downstairs in the laneway Centre Place is ok.

The violence was common place then, nothings changed except the innocent victims who are stabbed, beaten and killed on these same streets. About a year before a deranged bikie came out of these clubs and bashed a girl who refused to give him sex, he shot dead people who tried to help, in the street. Even an innocent tourist from the Netherlands who was just passing and tried to help her ended up in hospital.

Sadly corruption and weak pathetic politicians have made The City of Melbourne a pretty ugly place. I would NOT recommend anyone go there.

I haven't been back to the city since February 2009 when I showed Millie around town.

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